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Percussion?

Could we get a better source for the harp being considered a percussion instrument than one harpist/instructor saying it is? It seems as logical as a guitar being a percussion instrument. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 14:20, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The "percussion" reference seems to have been removed -

Done

--D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 02:36, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This classification is controversial; e.g. Piston places the harp with the percussion section, Forsyth with the strings. Generally accepted scoring practice is to place the harp and the celesta, guitar, piano, etc. in their own subsection between the percussion section and the strings, which gets around the problem nicely. --D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 02:36, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New "Classification" section?

It might be useful to have a comprehensive "Classification" section to list all the types and subtypes of harps (and those that have "harp" in the name but aren't considered harps). "Terminology and etymology" has some of this, the lead has some, and some are in the various other sections. What does everyone think? Facts707 (talk) 17:10, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and as part of this it needs to be made clear what the a priori definition of "harp" being used is. The requirement that the strings be "perpendicular to the sounding board" is arbitrary, imprecise, and is not met by some harps described in the article (e.g. cross-strung); this shortcoming has been commented on earlier on this page (Perpendicular?). E.g., the Madagascar valiha is commonly referred to as a harp, but Wikipedia classes it as a Zither; I think most musicians would regard it as a harp as the strings are vertical and the playing position is harp-like, whereas the archetypical zither is flat and played horizontally. I am not saying the article is wrong, just that it needs to be very clear at the start what the criteria are that determine that an instrument is a harp, and where this systematic classification comes from. --D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 02:06, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

proper name for the harp usually held by cherubs

looking for names of harps pictured with cherubs

thanks in advancr---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.200.245.62 (talk) 10:20, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean cherubs or angels?Vorbee (talk) 19:53, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mathematics of harps

Need a section identifying typical string weights & tensions and resulting lengths for needed notes, which results in harp's shape.71.230.16.111 (talk) 02:16, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Other than the implications for the harps shape this is covered in String instrument#Changing the pitch of a vibrating string and in Mersenne's laws. Verbcatcher (talk) 18:06, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adding the yazh in types of harp

In the Types of harp section,can i add the yazh as a type of harp,as it even says that it is a type of harp on this article? Simulator-master (talk) 08:22, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]